The artist and thinker, who just released a new album that's only one part of a larger multimedia conception, takes us from the drummers of Burundi to Adam Ant, Octavia Butler to David Bowie, Rakim to Young Thug. We also hit on ageism in rap, artistry for sale and how to work interviews.
ALI SHAHEED MUHAMMAD: Saul Williams in the house! What up?
FRANNIE KELLEY: Thank you for coming.